>> well, it's a very strange mixture, tony. it's a deep sadness among many here. but there is also an insistence that there must be a celebration of his life. throughout the day here we have seen people dancing, singing, moving up and down. it's way past 1:00 in the morning local time. that there are still crowds gathered outside of the house. every now and then groups will burst into song. there is that real mixture, that sadness, there is also a great sense of celebration. great sense of joy, almost, that all the people in this country have come together to remember nelson mandela in his death. >> michael, i'm curious, did mandela return to that home after his release in prison in 1990? >> well, yes, he did. it was very interesting.